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Episode Info: Cate is the author of the picture books PENGUIN AND TINY SHRIMP DON’T DO BEDTIME and the upcoming CHICKEN BREAK. Cate can be found on Twitter & Instagram @cateberryatx. Her website is CateBerry.comMentioned in this Episode:The Artist’s Way by Julia CameronPodralandPodraland article about Truer Words!Our episode with Jen DollThe SecretLaws of AttractionProsperity GospelThe Prosperous Heart by Julia CameronLeonardo da Vinci’s Saint Jerome at the Metropolitan Museum of ArtEdith Wharton houseFleabagOcean’s ElevenDie HardCBGBArlene’s GroceryDance Me to the End of Love by Leonard Cohen (with Matisse illustrations)The Iridescence of Birds by Patricia MacLaughlanKwame AlexanderLeonard Cohen: A Crack in Everything exhibit at the Jewish MuseumAnastasia Krupnik by Lois LowryK.A. HoltHouse Arrest by K.A. HoltOne by Sarah CrossanAWPMary QuattlebaumMarianne MurphyMeg CookJen Mann (aka J. Albert Mann)Our episode with Jen (J. Albert Mann)Guess Again! by Mac Barnett and illustrated by Adam RexMartha BrockenbroughTammi SauerSudipta Barhan-QuallenVermont College of Fine ArtsNova Ren SumaOur episode with NovaBig Magic: Creative Living Beyond Fear by Elizabeth GilbertTom BirdseyeNina LaCour’s Keeping a Notebook podcastShadow Artist concept from The Artist’s WayIra Glass quote about beginnersLiz Garton ScanlonKelly BarnhillDeep Creek by Pam HoustonAbout Us:Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy.You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website,, or email us at
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