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This is 1 of 2 episodes of a microphone takeover series!

Zachary Babcock is host of the top-rated podcast, Underdog Empowerment. We featured him on Episode 21 of the 365 Driven podcast.

In this episode, Zachary takes over my mic and interviews me on my own show. I returned the favor by interviewing him on his own show. Both episodes are being released today! Check out his show at


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