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Episode Info: We spoke with Michael Gungor of The Liturgists and Gungor about The Liturgists project, evolving faith, the state of the Christian music industry and finding God in pain. Michael is a foremost artist in Christian music and has made a name for himself with songs like Beautiful Things and The Earth is Yours. What you may not have known is that as Michael was going from church to church singing before people worship songs, he did not really believe what he was singing. Michael eventually came back to faith in Christ, but in 2014, many of his fans found out it wasnt in a way they were comfortable with, when Michael stated he didnt believe in literal Creationism. Despite that, Gungor still continues to create meaningful and make beautiful things for and about God with his wife, Lisa.

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