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In this episode, Gabe talks with Shaun Don thA TRUTH, a profound lyricist, poet, and community organizer, as well as a new father. During their conversation, they talk about being worth it and how much self-love and self-worth play a part in our evolution as humans, fatherhood and how he looks at his ancestors methodologies to elevate the possibilities for his daughter’s life and upbringing, as well as post-traumatic slave syndrome, and how he feels we can begin to do the hard work necessary to move forward through some of our most difficult conversations.

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