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Steven Kotler, expert on flow states and Director of Research for the Flow Genome Project, talks to us about his first experiences of flow, and how psychedelics have played a part in his career. We discuss the problems facing our society, and how a scientific understanding of flow states could help us change the way we approach vital cultural issues.

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