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Emily sits down with internist and thought leader Lucy Kalanithi to discuss her late husband's book When Breath Becomes Air, and topics diverse as as illness and identity, prognosis and uncertainty, love and suffering, and the importance of community. Follow Lucy on Twitter @rocketgirlMD.

This episode was recorded live at the UCSF School of Medicine's AOA Gold-Headed Cane Lecture. Emily and Lucy were introduced by UCSF medical student Tara Benesch.

This conversation includes mentions of: Dr. Rita Charon's 2018 Jefferson Lecture in the Humanities, Diane E. Meier's essay "'I Don't Want Jenny To Think I'm Abandoning Her': Views on Overtreatment", Ady Barkan's essay "I'm Dying. Here Is What I Refuse to Accept With Serenity," and William Lychack's essay "The Ghostwriter."

Illustrations by Lindsay Mound.

This episode's music comes from Blue Dot Sessions.

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