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We interview Michael B. Brown about giraffes, conservation, dissertation work, and the souls of animals.

How can the enterprise of science account for our felt connection to animals? We ask him about what his studies in the field and in academia have shown him. We touch on:

-scopes of studying behavior

-who defines a species

-framing studies in local African cultures

-what data can show us

-Captain Planet

-trophic cascades involving giraffe foliage

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