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This is the century where men need to rethink their identities at home and at work, says world renowned therapist Esther Perel, and that things will only change for women once men do this. We hear about her experiences working with couples and the unique challenges men face when trying to navigate their inner lives, and she advises us on how men and women can better communicate with each other. **Guest:** [Esther Perel](https://www.estherperel.com/), therapist, author of ‘Mating in Captivity’ and ‘The State of Affairs’, host of the podcast [Where Should We Begin?](https://www.estherperel.com/podcast) **Host and producer:** Nas aka Nastaran Tavakoli-Far **Co-host:** Jonathan Freeman **Co-producers:** Sam Baker and Jonathan Blackwell **Sponsor:** The Economist **Related links:** [The Gender Knot](http://thegenderknot.com/) website and [Facebook group](https://www.facebook.com/groups/182851532302085/) **Music:** Government Funded Weed by Black Ant (used under Creative Commons) 5 Pieces by Black Ant (used under Creative Commons)

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