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Episode Info: Debbi Mack interviews crime writer Richard Armstrong on the Crime Cafe podcast. For your podcasting needs, I use and recommend Blubrry Podcasting. I also recommend Stitcher Premium, if you’re a fan of podcasts. If you like true crime or crime fiction, there are loads of podcasts out there for you. And with Stitcher Premium you can listen to the exclusive archives from Criminology or bonus episodes from True Crime Garage. You can also listen ad-free to episodes of your favorite podcasts. I’ve subscribed, and for only $4.99 a month, it’s nice to have ad-free entertainment. Just go to and use the promo code, CRIMECAFE, to try it out absolutely free for a month. Unfortunately, I can no longer provide transcription show notes, but will resume doing so when finances allow. I’ve included a few excerpts from the interview. Here are a few excerpts from the interview: On copywriting and con men: “I have a free giveaway, if you visit my website. The book, as you know, deals with con men and confidence games, that sort of thing. And there’s a book on there … there’s a booklet called “How to Talk Anybody Into Anything: Secrets of the World’s Greatest Con Men.” It’s about a hundred pages long. It’s a PDF. You can download it instantly for free. There’s no catch or obligation or anything.” “While I don’t believe that copywriters are con men, we do have a tendency to use a lot of the same techniques. The key difference between a copywriter and a con man is that copywriters are not criminals. We don’t have what’s known in the law as criminal intent. We’re just trying to sell you a product. And, hopefully, that product will be worth more than what you paid for it, and we’ll both go away happy. A win-win situation. Whereas the con man is simply trying to essentially steal money from you without you knowing it. … I think [the free booklet] is a very interesting book and even a useful book if you’re in any business in which persuasion is part of your job, and that includes many, many different types of jobs.” On copywriting and fiction writing: “There’s a lot of connections between copywriting and fiction. This is my second novel, but in copywriting, we’ve long recognized the importance of telling stories, the importance of being mysterious, of invoking curiosity in the reader—a number of things we have to do in advertising that are skills that are very, very useful to the novelist. And vice versa.” About his novel, The Don Con: “I was an actor years ago, when I was younger, and way back in 1972, I was in a play, and … I did make a very good friend in that cast by the name of Jonathan Frakes. And Jonathan went on to be pretty well-known, famous as the second-in-command of Star Trek: The Next Generation … Patrick Stewart was the commander of the ship, and my friend Jonathan was the second-in-command. And one night, not that long ago—four or five years ago—I was having dinne...
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