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When US President Donald Trump disbanded his country's pandemic response team, he did so because "I don't like having thousands of people around when we don't need them."

That cost-cutting measure could cost hundreds of thousands of lives, and it's a classic example of what happens when we value efficiency over resilience. 

What are efficiency and resilience?

Today we draw on the work of Cardiff University Lecturer Paul Nieuwenhuis to find out.

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