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We’ve got an incredibly special episode for you today. I’m gonna go out on a limb, and say that its probably one of the most fascinating and insightful conversations I’ve ever had on this podcast. I strongly encourage you to suspend your disbelief and just listen with an open mind.

It’s people like my guest today, who are out there helping to facilitate just some really intelligent conversation on the topic of consciousness— he’s written an incredible new book entitled AN END TO UPSIDE DOWN THINKING, where he explores some of life’s most challenging questions about who we are as human beings.

In the book, he explores the idea that, contrary to mainstream assumptions, consciousness is NOT produced by the brain.

This book has been endorsed by well-known thinkers like two time Nobel prize nominee, Dr. Ervin Laszlo, Harvard Neurosurgeon and #1 New York Times bestselling author, Eben Alexander MD. Even Goldie Hawn said that while reading this book, “New pathways of the mind will open and perhaps shift your perception of reality, time and space, and above all consciousness!”

I can tell you that I first discovered him on another podcast, and knew immediately that I wanted to have a conversation of my own with him.

I really hope that you enjoy this incredibly insightful conversation…as we think outside the lines with Mark Gober.

Guest Bio:

Mark Gober is an author whose worldview was turned upside down in late 2016 when he was exposed to world-changing science. After researching extensively, he wrote An End to Upside Down Thinking to introduce the general public to these cutting-edge ideas – all in an effort to encourage a much-needed global shift in scientific and existential thinking.

Mark has long sought answers to life’s challenging questions. As an undergraduate at Princeton University, he was drawn to astrophysics because he wanted to understand the universe. But because due to commitments as a member of Princeton’s Division I Tennis Team, he decided that astrophysics would be too demanding. So instead of studying the invisible forces that govern the universe, he studied the invisible forces that secretly drive human behavior, getting a degree in psychology, focusing on behavioral economics.

After college, he explored the universe through books for fun. But it wasn’t until the summer of 2016 that he randomly stumbled across a series of podcasts that exposed him to some radical new ideas. Those ideas put into question the most basic assumptions about who and what we are as human beings. The more he researched, the more he realized that he needed to rethink everything that he thought he knew.

When he began relating to friends his research, they told him it changed the way they looked at life. Their lives started to improve. After he’d heard that multiple times, he realized it was time to share his research with a broader audience through his book and podcast so he could help more people.

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