Come one, you apes! You wanna live forever? We sure hope not, because when you’re pushed, killing’s as easy as breathing. And so is listening to Sean and Stefan discus two of the most violent — and morally complex — action movies of the modern era, Paul Verhoeven’s Starship Troopers and Sylvester Stallone’s Rambo. Made in 1997 and 2008 respectively, these films use satire (in the former case) and spectacle (in the latter) to probe the gaping wounds of fascism, war, war movies, and the act of killing. If, like us, you’re an admirer of how A Song of Ice and Fire and Game of Thrones use epic-battle tropes to interrogate the horrors of war, this discussion of two strange films that do the same is for you. Enjoy…? DOWNLOAD EPISODE 73Additional links: Sean’s essay on Rambo. Stefan’s essay on Starship Troopers (Patreon subscribers only). Mirror. Our Patreon page at patreon.com/boiledleatheraudiohour. Our PayPal donation page (also accessible via boiledleather.com). Our iTunes page. Previous episodes. Podcast RSS feed. Sean’s blog. Stefan’s blog.