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Friends and successful business owner and entertainer Gretel Killeen and Alexandra Tselios discuss how shame has influenced them. To preorder Gretel’s new book “The Zebra Who Lost Its Spots’ or to attend her Sydney mini-masterclass ‘How To Create a Creative Career’ just head to her website Facebook Gretel Killeen Official Twitter and Insta Gretel Killeen. Alexandra is the CEO of The Big Smoke. Check it out at and  

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