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Dr. James DiNicolantonio, Pharm.D., is known in the scientific community as a cardiovascular research scientist and co-author of more than 200 publications; however, he has made strides in the ketogenic community through his recent book publications. The Salt Fix and Super Fuel: Ketogenic Keys to Unlock the Secrets of Good Fats, Bad Fats, and Great Health are revolutionizing the way both average individuals and physicians see the cardiovascular effects of the ketogenic diet and salt consumption. Today on What the Fat, hear Dr. Ryan Lowery and Dr. NiNicolantonio have an in-depth discussion on everything to do with salt intake, fat sources, and the ketogenic diet.  


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Two heavily misunderstood aspects of the ketogenic diet are salt intake and fat sources. Sodium is not the demon it has been popularized to be and may, in fact, hold the key to improving your health. Moreover, all fats are not equal, and a well ketogenic diet constitutes more than just sticks of butter and pieces of bacon. A thoughtful combination of the two will help improve your health on keto.



Dr. James' latest books:

The Salt Fix

Super Fuel 

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Show Notes:

  • James DiNicolantonio’s background 1:42
  • The inspiration behind The Salt Fix 6:12
  • How did salt become demonized? 7:47
  • Alcoholism and how coffee causes salt depletion 13:50
  • The dangers of a low sodium intake 15:58
  • The benefits of exogenous ketones and the best salts 18:46
  • Pairing sodium with potassium 21:46
  • Daily sodium intake recommendation 24:46
  • What James’ diet looks like 26:19
  • How salt intake changes during intermittent fasting 29:03
  • Consuming salt before a workout 30:34
  • The connection between salt consumption and dehydration 32:33
  • Maximum daily salt intake and increased blood pressure 34:09
  • The relationship between sugar and sodium 36:08
  • Going against the grain and challenging current ideas about keto 40:00
  • Thoughts on the carnivore diet 42:39
  • The inspiration behind Super Fuel 46:55
  • The differences in fats (saturated vs unsaturated vs trans) 47:47
  • Benefits, downsides, and differences in fat sources 58:08
  • Cooking with coconut oil 1:03:44
  • What’s the difference between grain-fed, grass-fed, and grass-finished? 1:07:20
  • What a super-fueled day looks like 1:09:39
  • How food changes when it’s been cooked then cooled 1:11:09
  • Where you can get your copy of Super Fuel and social media pages 1:15:38


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“Low salt is literally just as bad on insulin resistance as high sugar”

“Keto sometimes gets a bad rap is because a lot of people have a misconception of what a ketogenic diet should be”

Dr. Ryan Lowery’s Instagram page: @ryanplowery

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