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Beverly Daniel Tatum is the author of an important book that I think every American should read called "Why Are All the Black Kids Sitting Together in the Cafeteria: And Other Conversations About Race."

I wanted to have Beverly on the podcast because discussing race in a respectful, productive manner is so critical at the current moment.

Also, speaking as a white person, I know that a lot of white people would like to engage in a dialogue about race, but feel totally ill-equipped.

Beverly and I discuss many subjects in this conversation, among them:

- Why is it so difficult to talk about race?

- How can we get past the discomfort and have these conversations?

- What is racism?

- How can white people do a better job of empathizing with African Americans and understand their experiences with racism?

- How can we go beyond simply being "not racist" and instead be "actively anti-racist?"

- What is white privilege and why should white people stop being so defensive about the term?

- Why is colorblindness not a productive approach to dealing with racism?

If we're going to be more united as a country, more white people must take the time to learn about how African Americans' daily experiences differ from their own, how privilege and discrimination impact people's lives, and how attitudes of "colorblindness" and "I'm not racist" contribute to the perpetuation of racism.

But we can't have these conversations if everyone is talking over each other, pointing fingers, and failing to ask the right questions.

I hope this podcast plays some small role in helping to facilitate the conversations we need to have.

I hope you find this conversation as enlightening as I did. As always check out our website for more about my guests and recommendations on good books to read about this and other topics we discuss on the show.


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