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Sara is a developer on the beloved CodeSandbox app. She's worked for years as a developer advocate, giving brilliant talks across the world, and building some of the wildest sites on the web.

Chantastic asks her about succeeding against mental illness, how she achieved meme status, why we should "build dumb shit", and what the heck a developer advocate does.

They discuss corporate "change the world" bullshit, casual racism, why you should teach what you know, and the shockingly unglamorous lifestyle of a conference speaker.

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