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In this episode, Sam sits down with Andie Moss, founder and president of the Moss group, a Washington, D.C. based criminal justice consulting group dedicated to helping state, local, federal, and private organizations in achieving organizational excellence. Listen in as Sam and Andie discuss correctional staffing, achieving organizational excellence, and transformational prison culture. Discover Prison Fellowship's Warden Exchange Program at To reach out with any feedback or suggestions for future podcast guests, contact music by Podington Bear under a Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 International License (


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