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In this episode, Sam chats with Jeremy Gregg, the Managing Director for Texas Arabella Advisors, where he serves as a trusted advisor for high-capacity philanthropists. As a social entrepreneur, Jeremy has cofounded several successful nonprofits and mission-driven businesses. Listen in as Sam and Jeremy discuss the issue of mass incarceration, the idea of social return on investment, and "Daddy's Timeout," a book Jeremy wrote to help explain incarceration to children with incarcerated parents. Discover Prison Fellowship's Warden Exchange Program at To reach out with any feedback or suggestions for future podcast guests, contact music by Podington Bear under a Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 International License (


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