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We're gonna be straight with you. John bailed last minute due to an illness. However, our scheduled guest Lee Martin was almost at Christopher's house. So we did this, a backdoor pilot slash cross-promotional combine the efforts of not only Abram and Christopher of Nickelbackin', but Jukebox Zeroes (featuring Lee), and Old Men Yell At Cloud (Christopher's other podcast)!    We did manage to get off topic a good amount, and we did even sneak in a little update about a certain group of friends of ours from the north.

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