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Money is not your number-one priority. But that doesn’t bother you. In some ways, it has even given you peace. Sometimes you’re apathetic, but most times you’re optimistic. As an Optimistic Avoider, you feel good about the future even if you’re not sure of how you’ll get there. Hosted by Faith Salie and featuring: Laura Adams, personal finance expert, host of Money Girl Podcast, and author of Money Girl’s Smart Moves to Grow Rich; financial therapist Amanda Clayman; and David Carlson, personal finance blogger at YoungAdultMoney.com and author of Hustle Away Debt.

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