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When churches shove people out for reasons Jesus never would have it deeply hurts people. Amy and Kirk talk about how most churches are church closed groups, but Jesus created and wanted churches to be open groups. Too often, churches shove people out for breaking pet beliefs, like sexual stuff, but allow for more “acceptable” stuff, like greed. It is disorienting, frustrating, damaging, and invalidating to be shoved out of a church. Amy and Kirk share from their own experiences, and hopefully they help you!

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Intro music is Morning Star Rise by Josh White, off his "Wounded Healer" album. It is excellent.

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