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Pan Michalatos is an architect, lecturer in architecture technology at the Harvard Graduate School of Design, and a Principal Research Engineer at Autodesk.


Favorite quotes
  • "I don't think there is such a thing as a simple life."
  • "You need to have the luxury to choose to simplify your life."
  • "Everything [including art] has utility for the fact that it is being done."
  • "There is a misconception: that our lives have accelerated. […] But for someone 10,000 years ago, [life] would be an equally constant state of stress."
  • "Screens are constructed, by accident or intentionally, to be stared at. You don't have a problem focusing on the screen. The problem is looking away from it."
  • "We are trying to create tools and workflows for designers that incorporate all the knowledge [existing in other disciplines] to be directly accessible and usable."
  • "Software is seen as a way to package knowledge in a usable (and mobile) form, to distribute it."
  • "The other people. That's the challenge."
  • "We try to find drives to keep us distracted from the fact that we're all gonna die."

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Episode notes · Part 1, Pan's career
  • Intro. [0:00]
  • Pan Michalatos. [2:27]
  • Intuitive. [12:02]
  • The "opening" of making. [13:43]
  • Specificity. [15:19]
  • Simple interactions. [16:47]
  • Developing intuition. [18:28]
  • Who designs your software. [20:01]
  • Rewarding interfaces. [22:56]
  • Design automation. [24:33]
  • Constrained interactions. [25:35]
  • Programming languages - How do coding languages affect user interactions? [26:06]
  • Three social contexts - Working with a team, teaching, and doing your own projects. [28:10]
  • Side projects. [28:57]
  • oramata. [31:01]
  • Monolith - A response to the "big promise" of the digital manufacturing industry. [32:46]
  • Millipede. [35:52]
  • Open source. [38:16]
  • Teaching. [39:26]

Episode notes · Part 2, Pan's worldview
  • Pan Michalatos. [41:26]
  • Is your life simple? [42:00]
  • Complexity vs Intensity. [42:31]
  • Daily habits. [43:14]
  • Commute. [43:25]
  • Exercise. [43:47]
  • Meditative moments. [44:18]
  • Boredom. [44:44]
  • Media recommendations. [45:06]
  • Focus. [45:48]
  • Email. [46:09]
  • What makes you more creative? [47:25]
  • Your best ideas. [47:52]
  • Work in progress. [47:57]
  • Deliberate practice. [48:32]
  • Disconnection. [49:03]
  • Restrictions. [49:45]
  • Analog. [50:03]
  • Social media. [50:52]
  • Digital clutter. [52:48]
  • Communicative software. [53:37]
  • Success. [55:12]
  • A person that influenced you. [56:33]
  • A sentence to the world. [57:25]
  • Anything you'd do differently? [57:42]
  • Nature. [58:15]
  • Money. [59:11]
  • Clothing. [59:57]
  • Objects. [1:00:33]
  • Distaste towards clutter. [1:00:54]
  • Travel. [1:02:06]
  • Fun experiments. [1:02:52]
  • What's art? [1:03:50]
  • Slow down from what? [1:05:13]
  • Slack vs Scarcity. [1:07:08]
  • The exceptional and the regular. [1:10:06]
  • Book recommendations. [1:15:20]
  • News. [1:17:28]
  • A creative hobby. [1:18:19]
  • Regulating technologies. [1:19:10]
  • Future work. [1:21:42]
  • On Getting Simple. [1:22:53]

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