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Episode Info: Gabe Rosales, is a professional musician, and a sobriety and criminal justice advocate from San Juan Capistrano, California. He got sober in 2007 after serving time in prison for crimes committed during the time he was actively drinking and drugging. The experience inspired him to earn a degree in Criminal Justice in order to help reform the system and make the world a better place. Gabe’s album “Vital Nonsense” came out in 2009 and is a brilliant mix of hip-hop and rock that you really need to experience to appreciate. It’s available at Amazon as an mp3 download or CD. You can learn more about Gabe at his website Transcript [music] 00:02 John: This is really bad music. [laughter] 00:05 Gabe: I’m into it. [laughter] 00:10 John: And this is My Secular Sobriety. I’m John and Ben is here. How you doing, Ben? 00:15 Ben: Hey, I’m pretty good, John, excited to talk to Gabe here. 00:20 John: Yeah, I am too. Our guest today is Gabe Rosales, and this is really kind of funny. This is a new podcast and I was looking for some guests and one thing I’m interested in are alternative ways of getting sober, other than the traditional 12 step process. And I know that there’s a lot going on out there in social media and… Oh gosh, just everywhere, that people are getting together and helping each other stay sober. So, I was kind of looking for an online support group and I ran across Gabe’s page on Facebook. And I thought, “Well, this is interesting, I’ll send him an email.” And I thought that was all that Gabe was about, [laughter] and then I read… I Googled Gabe and I ran across his Wikipedia page, and you know I don’t have a Wikipedia page, [chuckle] but Gabe certainly does. And I’m just going to read you, for those of you that aren’t familiar with Gabe, just a brief introduction from his Wikipedia page. 01:22 John: So, Gabe is a professional musician, a sobriety advocate, international human rights activist, a criminal justice and drug policy reformist from San Juan Capistrano, California. He is predominantly known as a bassist, rapper, guitarist, singer, and producer. He’s worked in many genres of music such as rock, jazz, pop, drum and bass, fusion, funk, hip hop, Latin music and death metal. His album, and I just discovered this album today, I bought it and I love it, and it came in just the right time, in this period of a depressed, depressing world. Anyway, his album, Vital Nonsense, just sounds beautiful. I’m just kind of getting into it. That was released in February of 2009. Anyway, he has played with a variety of artists. He is active in activism, humanitarian charities, arts, corrections, criminology, you name it. Gabe, how are you? 02:31 Gabe: Fantastic, thanks for having me. 02:33 John: It’s an honor. Like I said, I don’t know if I’ve ever read a more interesting bio of anybody that I’ve ever talked to on a podcast before. And I don’t even know where to begin, other than maybe if you ...
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