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Episode Info: About Aurelie Athan Today I am talking to Aurelie Athan who is a full-time lecturer and program Coordinator of the Masters Program in the Department of Clinical Psychology at Teachers College, Columbia University where she revives the term matrescence through education, theory, and practice. Aurelie’s courses and certificate program are firsts in Reproductive Psychology.  She studies mothers' development holistically, both their thriving and distress, to normalise the transition to motherhood. She is in private practice and works with women of all ages as well as offer consultation to professionals working with mothers. She was last heard saying: "We all have a psychological relationship to our reproductive life, from menstruation to menopause and everything in between!"  Aurelie is also a co-founder of the Sexuality, Women, and Gender Project at Teacher’s College where her research focuses on women’s development across the lifespan and optimal ageing, with a current emphasis on the transition to motherhood. Her clinical orientation is informed by depth perspectives such as Jungian psychology with a focus on the creative expression of the human psyche in art and psychotherapy. Episode highlights 5.27 - postpartum considered as a pathology 6.14 - complex language used by mothers in interviews – coexistence/competing realities of positive/negative 7.10 - child outcome research not looking at experience of mother. 8.22 - Aurelie Athan marries positive to negative in her dissertation – postpartum flourishing and then the grey in between. 9.40 - Language around developmental stage of motherhood 10.17 - Disrupting the unitary model of motherhood – to consider all the diverse ways we come into motherhood and mother. 11.17 - Aurelie leaving her field and finding anthropological work of Dana Raphel and the word 'matrescence' 12.38 - Testing the word matrescence in her class at Brown University 14:54 - Discussion of matrescence alongside adolescence 16:14 - Does matrescence have an end date? Additional pregnancies, additional children and how we experience mothering as the children grow. 17:54 - When does matrescence begin? The preconception window.... 19:04 - The spiritual journey of pregnancy 20:30 - Positive psychology 22:05 - Why our culture is open to hear about matrescence – growth, wellness, complimentary medicine, self actualisation, spiritual development. 23:36 - Spiritual practices and beliefs as part of physical healing. 24:17 - How children influence the development of mothers. Lessons of patience, mindfulness, presence, meaning and purpose – are you living from that place - you have to walk the walk.  Character traits we want to have in our children. 26:24 - Love, acceptance and compassion – not just loving ourselves with kindness but our own loving kindness – Kristen Neff 27:12: The #Metoo movement 27.25 - Enlightenment – awakening to truths 28:12 - Not being able to tolerate violence of kids on TV -  collapse of s...
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