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Dr Michael Fullilove is the Executive Director of the Lowy Institute. An adviser to Prime Minister Paul Keating, Rhodes Scholar and renowned foreign affairs expert, Dr Fullilove is a widely published author and a much sought after global commentator.
Misha Zelinsky caught up with Michael Fullilove for a chinwag about how Australia should interact with a rising China under Xi Jinping, the madness of US politics and what a second Trump term might look like, how open systems of government still have the upper hand, why the world might be one elected leader away from a new sense of calm, and why - despite everything - Michael remains an unabashed optimist about the future. Be sure to listen to Michael's special shout out to the 'Deep State'!

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