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Chad Bird is an author, theologian, and teacher, and I was super pumped to have him back on the show to discuss his new book, Upside-Down Spirituality: The 9 Essential Failures of a Faithful Life. We talked about God’s perspective versus our own, our goals for marriage versus God’s goals for marriage, and we riffed at length on the nature of freedom in Christ. There’s something in here for everyone!

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