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Part 2 of our discussion with educational pioneer Jaime Casap (check out Part 1 here) begins with a celebration of math as life, rather than a mere textbook full of static equations and formulas. We also continue our discussion of collaborative education, which gets so meta that Jeff and Jaime actually collaborate to finish saying a word!

Jaime also discusses the unique joys and challenges of having kids aged 27, 19, and 5, and the vastly different fatherhood experience of each, and how solo days with his youngest, making up stories and talking about space travel, are so great way for jumpstarting creativity.

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