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-Jasmin and Mariann chat about their continuing efforts to manage daily life as we navigate the COVID-19 pandemic, the value of helping local communities, Mariann's upcoming birthday, and Jasmin's recent interview with Joaquin Phoenix! -Mariann interviews Jeff Sebo about how our environmental choices and the way we think and talk about animals continue to have significant effects on climate change and biodiversity. Jeff tells us why it's so important to center animals in discussions of climate change policies and what a world reshaped by climate change might look like. He also shares updates on the work of the Animal Studies program at NYU. (23:30) -Mariann brings us Rising Anxieties about COVID-19, dietary choices, and more. (38:40)

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