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-Mariann and Jasmin talk about their concerns about coronavirus and climate change, and the hazards of picking up a coffee habit. Also, Jasmin reads from her chapter of our guest Brittany Michelson's book. Try not to touch your face while listening! -Jasmin talks to Brittany Michelson (@brittanyforanimals) about her new book, Voices For Animal Liberation, which features a chapter by Jasmin herself! Brittany is a fantastic and vital activist who has compiled an important book from some of the greatest voices in the animal rights movement. In this interview she tells us about the creation and publication processes for the book and how she hopes it will reach people. She also gives us an amazing reading from her chapter! (13:00) -Mariann brings us Rising Anxieties including why Joaquin Phoenix needs to be kinder, how environmental activists are dangerous extremists, and carrots made of pork ! (53:30)

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