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Maybe today we shall talk about the singularity, but which version of the singularity? Technological or mathematical? Well, we did start with this topic, but it turned out it was only the appetizer question for today's chat. It was a deep and entertaining conversation, and to some extent, our heads are still spinning and thinking about it. Perhaps it is a good idea to start from the beginning and set the stage for this podcast. Our chat comes the day after Winn Schwartau is awarded the 2019 ISSA Hall of Fame and was recognized with a lifetime achievement award by ISSA International for being an individual with exceptional leadership as well as an exemplary commitment to the information security profession. There are two words here that warrant some added color: - Exceptional - this word doesn't do Winn's accomplishments justice - Exemplary -- only if you can keep up We talk about a lot of things during our chat with Winn - and it was hard for us (OK, Sean) to keep up. Here is a sample of the menu: - The singularity wasn't enough. Let's talk about quantum computing and physics. - The concept of time and its impact on how we interpret and look at security. - The fundamental importance of seeking and sharing knowledge. - Shouldn't we require a license to use technology (similar to driving a vehicle)? - Do you know what goes well together? Artificial Intelligence and Ethics. - Where are we going with GDPR, CCPA, and privacy? - What if our entire approach to cybersecurity has been wrong? It's not clear how many things we tackled and questions we answered. We sure learned a lot, had some fun, and Winn did a great job summarizing the state of the security industry. Maybe his quote sums it up: "Complexity has made security almost impossible to achieve -- security by complexity is what a lot of vendors are really happy about." Come on, join us. ----- For more coverage from ISSA International Summit 2019, visit


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