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Sam headed over to Patreon headquarters to talk with CEO and incredible musician Jack Conte. Jack spent his entire adult life as a working artist, figuring out ways to support himself doing what he loves. He took that up a notch and created Patreon, a membership platform that helps thousands of creators (including us) find ways to support themselves and build relationships with their audience.

To become a patron and help this program continue producing Mood Altering Substance, go pledge any amount.

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And if you’d like to buy us a coffee (or burrito) once a month to help us keep going, you can become a patron by going to making a pledge of any amount.

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