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This interview was released December 5th 2013. US national team member, Maggie Nichols, told USA Gymnastics about being abused by Nassar in June 2015. As of this update in January of 2018, she is the first known person to tell USA Gymnastics.... Then Rachael Denhollander, became the first survivor to go public in the Indy Star with accusations against Nassar in September 2016. It turns out that former doctor, Nassar had been abusing girls and women all the way back to the 1990s. And theses brave women, girls had been telling authorities all along, but they weren't believed.

Larry Nassar is now a convicted pedophile and child pornographer who will spend the rest of his life in jail. This episode makes us feel guilty, sick and embarrassed but we will never take it down. Why? Because it may be one of the few interviews of it's kind, one with a serial child molester before he was caught. It shows how easy it is to groom adults, like us and our listeners (look a the comments section), and people in power, people who should have known better, including the USOC, USA Gymnastics, former USAG President Steve Penny, Martha Karolyi, former Chairmans of the Board Peter Vidmar and current Chariman Paul Parilla.  To understand more about why we have chosen to keep this interview up as a learning tool and how every system failed to protect girls, please read, listen and learn from the following:

A Safeguarding Checklist: 12 questions every parent, young adult, and coach should ask.

Indy Star series A Blind eye to sex abuse: How USA Gymnastics failed to report cases.

USA Gymnastics Chose Medals Over Child Safety 

Larry Nassar duped me. He would have duped you too. Here's how to stop the next abuser from taking his place 

Listen to survivor impact statements at the sentencing hearing  here.

Timeline of Larry Nassar's Crimes and Career.

The Daniels Report.

The Ropes & Gray Report.

Aly Raisman's Fierce

Abused: Surviving Sexual Assault and a Toxic Gymnastics Culture by Rachel Haines.

Want to know who see's everything at The Ranch? Who runs the room where Kyla Ross said cameras should follow the team if they really want to see where the action is at camp. Who we would pick if we were going to pick a doctor to take care of our kids while they traveled around the world flipping at speeds that would make an astronaut jealous? It's USA Gymnastics Team Physician, Larry Nassar, A.T.C.  He's a professor, a certified athletic trainer, an osteopath and one of the most caring human beings you could ever hope to meet. A blunt, honest, experienced professional who tells it like it is. He can do that because he's so compassionate. This interview originally aired on December 6, 2013. We discussed:

  • What Marta calls him about the most.
  • What it was like to be part of the 2000 Olympic "hell"
  • Dealing with parents who will not accept responsibility for their child's health
  • The one change he would make in order to prevent injuries
  • What injustice the International Olympic Committee commits against gymnasts
  • Why The Ranch is no longer- as the fans formerly called it- "Death Camp" [2018 update: now it has a much worse nickname]
  • Changing the camp culture to prevent athletes and coaches from hiding injuries
  • Gym Myth Busters injury edition: ACLs, Achilles, & Shawn Johnson's knee injury


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