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Denver Cramer of @denverandliely joins me in San Fran for a candid interview about the unique and organic way he and Liely interact with their customers and the intense thought and research, not only into the performance, but also into the experience, that goes into the design of every D&L glass.  We sip on some @stgeorgespirits Dry Rye Reposado Gin, and he tells us about the next great product that you’ll want to hear if you like to get outdoors and have fun.  Follow them at

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