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Episode Info: Watch the video version you YouTube: https://youtu.be/OEuBiZQ_6OIGavin Pickin interviews Brad Wood, Software Consultant for Ortus Solutions and Trainer leading the Intro to BDD Workshop at Into the Box 2020 in Houston Texas, May 2020. Find out what the workshop is about, why you should attend, what you need to know before you attend and what you'll learn while you're there. You can support us on Patreon here https://www.patreon.com/ortussolutionsFor the show notes - visit the website https://conference.modernizeordie.io/episodes/modernize-or-die-conference-brad-wood-intro-to-bdd-workshop-itb2020-episode-4Music from this podcast used under Royalty Free license from SoundDotCom https://www.soundotcom.com/ and BlueTreeAudio https://bluetreeaudio.comTranscript: Intro (00:02):Gavin (00:31):Welcome to the Modernize or Die® podcast conference edition. And today we're meeting with Brad Wood, an Ortus Solutions Consultant and trainer for his workshop at Into the Box 2020, Intro to BDD. Welcome. Brad.Brad (00:44):Are you meeting with me or am I meeting with you?Gavin (00:46):I'm the little guy today, so it means you're the important person.Brad (00:50):Okay. Careful. I might get a big head.Gavin (00:52):Yup. Yeah. Well me, I'm not usually the little person, so that's kind of cool for change. Anyway. So, we're going to be talking to you about your workshop, Intro to BDD. So what's the workshop about Brad?Brad (01:06):It's about intro to BDD. Gavin, can't you read? So what is BDD? That's a good question. BDD stands for behavior driven development. It's sort of an evolution of TDD test driven development. It doesn't quite replace it. It kind of builds on top of it. Honestly we'll kind of start out with the workshop just talking about, testing and why it's important because, before you get off too much in the weeds about all the different styles of testing or types of testing, for a lot of people, the biggest hurdle for them is just actually begin testing their applications.Luis and I were at a DevNexus conference recently and I sat in a part of a workshop that he had on, on TDD for Java developers. the speaker Vencat had like, you know, three rules of testing and I forget what the third one was, but the first, the second rule was just do it and just do it.Brad (02:01):Cause that's kind of the problem. Um, you know, with people's getting over that hump. And one of the quotes that came out on Twitter that, that Vencat had said in that workshop was something along the lines of, um, I don't test because I have a bunch of free time. I write tests because I don't have a bunch of free time. You know, in the time savings that you have. Ultimately when you have a nice test suite that goes along with an application and it's always hard for people to kind of see that future version of themselves where they have a, you know, a nice, suite of tests that, you know, cover a lot of the functionality of the app and all they see is kind of the immediate, you know, ve...
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