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We've got a breather between sittings, so Steve Sachs joins us as we recap an opinion, take a look at some grants and orders, discuss whether law school clinics are good or bad ideas, and ask a lot of questions about Steve and Will Baude's amicus brief in Franchise Tax Board of California v. Hyatt. Plus, we get a peek at an upcoming bonus episode with Leah and Michele Goodwin, discussing the history of abortion regulations in light of Box v. Planned Parenthood of Indiana and Kentucky.

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