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Episode Info: Executive Director at one of America's largest and fastest growing multi-site churches. She is passionate about helping local churches thrive and equipping leaders to fulfill their calling. Kadi is a true visionary, ahead of her time in teaching churches to harness the God-given talents in their congregations. While we are all called to serve, Kadi helps men and women navigate the unique challenges that may arise in pursuit of that call together. Kadi is an engaging, practical, and down-to-earth speaker and writer on a variety of topics related to leadership, organizational development, spiritual growth, parenting, and living a full life.     Key Quotes from the Episode:  “It’s not about their potential … it’s about their willingness to follow through on the potential given to them.” “The goal of leadership is to make people better through the art of work.”  “None of us is doing a great job fully living up to what we believe women can contribute in the kingdom.” “As female leaders, one of our biggest responsibilities is to have clarity on what actual issues we’re battling.” “It doesn’t really matter your theology; it’s about your mentality of how can I release the gifts of the women God has brought to my congregation.” “We have to make space for one another as brothers and sisters to go into hard topics with some grace, patience, and love for one another to get to a place of common understanding.” “Having the position is the easy part. Creating change, leading from the middle, doing things that aren’t your direct responsibility or authority--that’s where real leadership comes into play.” “We have to get better at learning how to connect with people different than us.”  “It is certainly not my job to maximize insecurities.” “We have to have confidence enough in our own calling to give freedom and grace for people to answer their own calling.” “We need to give space in the kingdom for all of us to have a place at the table.”   Episode Sponsor: Audible Today’s show is brought to you by Audible. Audible is offering our listeners a free audiobook with a 30-day trial membership. Just go to and browse the unmatched selection of audio programs – download a title free and start listening.   How your free trial works: Choose a free audiobook and set up a trial 30-day membership! After 30 days, get one audiobook a month for $14.95/month Receive 30% off the price of additional audiobook purchases Cancel at any time. The books are yours to keep, even if you cancel   Go to to start your free trial.   Connect with Esther and Holly: Esther’s Website Holly’s Website Instagram Facebook Group Facebook Page   For the full show notes for this episode, visit
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