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New York produces 12,000 tons of waste every day. Out of that 12,000 tons, only 17 percent gets recycled. Soon, we will have more plastic than fish in our oceans. In this no-nonsense conversation, the President of the United Nations General Assembly, María Fernanda Espinosa, and west~bourne founder Camilla Marcus, discuss solutions small and large to plastic pollution. Who is responsible for weaning society off its toxic addiction to plastic? And who should bear the brunt of regulation: consumers, corporations, restaurants, or manufacturers?

Dare I Say is a podcast from that sits in on unfiltered conversations between the most influential women of our time—those daring to make the difference we deserve.

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