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This episode we bring you two conversations with Defense One Executive Editor Kevin Baron from the Shangri-La Defense dialogues — which happened this past weekend in Singapore. Kevin sat down with the State Department’s Under Secretary for Arms Control and International Security Affairs, Andrea Thompson, at the 26:34 mark. But first, Baron spoke with Dr. Kori Schake, the Deputy Director-General of the International Institute for Strategic Studies in London, at the 0:49 mark.

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