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In episode 13 of Creatoring, I hang out with Liz Mac, a wonderful illustrator, nerd, Canadian, designer, and painter. This episode marks a new era for Creatoring, one where we focus less on making bad jokes about garbage from Twitter or Dribbble and focus on what makes each of us as creators a little bit weird. I hope y'all like the change. There are some weird sound issues, some echos on my end. That is not part of the new turn. I hope

Liz and I cover a bunch of different topics like My Brother, My Brother and Me, ghosts, Stephen King, horror movies, and why you should never do anything. I think you'll like it.

You can find Liz on Twitter and Instagram as @lizmacdraws or on her own website.

Some of Liz's favorite artists/designers:

If you need me, I'll be listening to Cutting Crew's "(I just) Died in your Arms"

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