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Oren Cass is the executive director of American Compass, a conservative think tank that stresses the importance of family and domestic industry, in opposition to a singleminded devotion to economic efficiency. Cass was previously a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute for Policy Research, and was the domestic policy director for Mitt Romney's 2012 presidential campaign. Bob and Oren have a friendly discussion about their disagreements on economic policy.

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The audio production for this episode was provided by Podsworth Media.

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