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Research on procedural justice suggest that when court users perceive the justice process to be fair, they are more likely to comply with court orders and to follow the law in the future— regardless of whether they “win” or “lose” their case. Today we have an in-depth discussion about the implications of procedural justice by interviewing Judge Victoria Pratt, a nationally acclaimed judge and professor at Rutgers Law School whose TED Talk, How Judges Can Show Respect, has over one million views. We begin the interview by discussing Judge Pratt’s motivation for pursuing a judgeship (21:15), her experiences as the Chief Judge in Newark Municipal Court (24:00), and her innovative approach to justice in the courtroom (27:10). We then have a conversation about common criticisms of community court and restorative justice approaches (35:12), how Judge Pratt navigated the various challenges she experienced as a black woman behind the bench (42:32), and the importance of judges remaining connected to the community (48:55). We close the interview by discussing the importance of moving away from law and order and moving toward restorative justice (1:03:31).


Other Topics Include:

00:30 - Catch up with Ty and Daphne

03:08 - BhD “Oh Lawd” News

20:08 - Introduction of the Topic

1:08:58 - Ty and Daphne Reflect on the Interview



  • Judge Pratt’s Website - Twitter: @JudgeVPratt How Judges Can Show Respect TED Talk - Procedural Justice Resources -

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