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Show Info: The Bellarmine Forum Podcast is Catholic commentary on anything from history, philosophy, and current events. Best viewed as an after-dinner chat.
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The Baptism of Fire: Why Protestants Think They Don’t Purgatory, But Catholics Do with Landon DePasquale: BFP 010
Nov 13, 2017
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81 minutes
Ever wondered why purgatory is so messy? And why do Protestants think it is wrong? Join in the discussion with Landon DePasquale and John Manos on Purgatory, Luther, and the Fr. Weinandy departure from the USCCB. St. Ambrose of Milan described it: “Before the resurrected lies a fire, which all of them must cross. This is the baptism of fire foretold by John the Baptist, in the Holy Ghost and the fire; it is the burning sword of the cherub who guards the gate of heaven, before which everyone must pass: all shall be subjected to examination by fire; for all who want to return to heaven must be tried by fire. (Jacques Le Goff, “The Birth of Purgatory” pg. 59) quoting St. Ambrose of Milan ca. 338-397 This should be strangely reminiscent of the vision of the angel with the flaming sword that the children saw at Fatima. Fatima’s purpose was to encourage sinners to repent, and to encourage faithful Catholics to obtain graces and mercy for the repentance of sinners. Launching from this quote, the discussion turns on the many misconceptions about purgatory, even among Catholics. How Luther and the Protestants had to rid themselves of purgatory, and how their misapprehension of salvation and faith just can’t describe this reality. Then, Landon lays down a description of attitudes common among Protestants that makes it easier to understand how discussion of these topics with them is impossible. It is an identity thing. * Why Purgatory is not a destination, and why you shouldn’t strive to get there * One curious issue in the notes to the NAB version of 1 Corinthians, and how to avoid it. * Why Catholics that “aim for purgatory” as a destination will fail * Why the theological virtue of
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