Thinking Sideways Podcast
About This Show
Devin, Joe and Steve have always been curious. Though they don’t have any formal education to guide them, they sit down every week to discuss unsolved mysteries of all kinds: weird noises, strange website and horrific suicides that look a lot like murders. They take a skeptical approach, but never discount the truly odd nature of the world.
Most Recent Episode
3 days ago
Tina Watson drowned while scuba diving in Australia on her honeymoon. An accident? Or... murder?
Rated 1 out of
This show doesn't know what it is half the time
I'm listening to the most recent episode, GhostNet, and I have no idea what GhostNet even is. I feel dumber for having listened because they rapidly gloss over very important parts of the story and then wander off on really involved tangents that have nothing to do with anything.
This is a pretty good way of describing every episode of this show. If you're interested in a subject they're talking about, don't listen to Thinking Sideways because they never actually tell you anything about it. If, on the other hand, you want to listen to a group of people going on endlessly about all the things they don't know... then Thinking Sideways is your best bet.
Date published: 2017-04-13
Rated 1 out of
Ugh Simply Ugh
IGNORANCE, TANGENTS AND QUARRELING
I really attempted to enjoy this show. I love mysteries and many other podcasts which have mysteries as the topic. This show though is just bad. The hosts apparently do little to no research or use reddit and the top two google results they run across. I use a bit of hyperbole but in all seriousness the number of things which are stated as factual but in fact are just wrong is startling. The number of logical fallacies used in the course of any particular episode is also off the charts. Lastly, one host in particular seems unable to stop himself from dragging the show off on long tangents multiple times each episode. He seems to know that the audience doesn't care for this and also seems to find it hilarious.
Summation: Great Potential......TERRIBLE RESULT
Date published: 2016-08-10
Rated 1 out of
Interesting topics; disorganized hosts
I've listened to most of the cases, and the hosts cover some really interesting topics. That said, the hosts' lack of research/organization and constant interruptions/off-topic unfunny comments really make this podcast un-listenable. It completely ruins the podcast for me. I reeeeealllllly wanted to like this podcast. Oh, well. Back to Sword & Scale.
Date published: 2016-07-07
Rated 5 out of
Great Lighthearted Podcast
I first found thinking sideways after looking for podcasts similar to the last podcast on the left (basically humorous true crime / supernatural that doesn't take itself too seriously). TS is a very enjoyable lesser-known mystery podcast, the hosts are likable and the topics tend to be lesser known stuff that is well researched and well covered.
All in all this is one of the few mystery/true crime podcasts I can listen to without falling asleep in my chair. I would recommend it to anybody who enjoys mystery podcasts that have a sense of humor. My biggest criticism is that they seem to gloss over the most obvious solution to the mysteries in almost every episode: The Chupacabra did it. :-)
Date published: 2016-02-25
Rated 1 out of
Disorganized, not well researched, repetative
I really wanted to like this show. I gave MANY episodes a listen, but the hosts do very little research (and poor research at that), and don't come up with outlines for how they will present each topic. They all try to talk over each other, and there is a lot of jumping the gun "we will get to that" is repeated constantly. It's like they don't realize they have listeners who don't want spoilers.
And the TANGENTS. Jesus. So disorganized, so flippant, and they get WAY off topic.
Don't even bother listening to their episode on the Jefferson Davis Eight. Listen to Sword & Scale's episode instead (hey, Devin, Joe & Steve, you probably should check out Sword & Scale to see how to organize things).
Whenever they have an episode that takes place prior to, oh, let's say 1970, they joke about "what, they couldn't just google it? Har har no innernets in the 1800's?"
So predictable. Yes, so anyways Joe, so anyways, chupacabra. And Devin like, feels like, aliens did it. Steve is probably the least annoying since he quit adding the words "go ahead" to every other sentence (We are glad you went ahead and stopped saying that, Steve.)
So guys, organize yourself, take it down a notch (you seem to be getting quite cocky), let each other talk, and treat it like a show for your audience. Not like roommate radio.
Date published: 2017-01-20
Rated 5 out of
I love listening to this show on my long morning and evening commutes. They keep me awake and entertained, but most importantly get me interested in all the unsolved mysteries of the world. When I turn on a new show, it's almost like getting excited to go on a car ride with my friends when we know we have exciting things to talk about. Once I listened to my first show about the missing MH370 plane and their theories, I was hooked. This show is one of a kind and I look forward to each new mystery they have. Thanks guys!
Date published: 2014-05-07
Rated 1 out of
Thinking Sideways is evidence that thanks to Google, anyone may pretend to be knowledgeable about anything. For people who are entertained by blind conjecture and flippant behavior.
Date published: 2015-10-29
Rated 1 out of
A deeply frustrating affair of lost potential
I've been listening to Thinking Sideways for a couple years now, but no longer. I'm done with it. I used to wait eagerly every week for an episode, but just recently I realized I hadn't though about the show in months. Moreover I didn't really miss it.
Thinking Sideways is a podcast which has let its flaws run away with it. The podcast always had the problem its hosts being in dire need of some structure and/or discipline, of having frustrating tangents that go nowhere and do nothing, of reaching to incredible distances to arrive at frail and unconvincing theories, and being intellectually shallow and vapid. However, over time, these flaws rose up and consumed the show. The reason I completely put this show out of my mind was that a string of episodes all in a row had become so tedious and stupid I'd turned them off.
Thinking Sideways is at its best when the hosts are engaging with the show, telling stories of the events, and going into the trenchant details of a case. It's at its absolute worst when the hosts are cracking dumb and going into long tangents. A pity then that so many episodes these days have bloated into rancid, stupid tangent festivals.
As for the hosts I've come to dislike them and their styles. Devin I dislike the most. Devin is chipper, but she has the nearly unbearable problem of frequently coming across as really poorly informed. Sometimes she seems to revel in it. "Why don't they use google or call on their cell phones?" she jokes about people in the 1960s. This gag was never funny, and it's become even less so after two hundred repetitions of it. Moreover any time there's a technical explanation, even entry level stuff, she metamorphoses into a dumb blonde who knows nothing. You'd think she'd learn a little about the cases every week so she doesn't come across as deeply uninformed and incurious, but no, Devin is content to demonstrate she probably shouldn't be running a mystery podcast in the first place.
Steve is second worst. He gets the information across and is way more knowledgeable than Devin, but he has the tendency to wave the flag of the devil's advocate long after it's time to turn in. In many episodes, confronted with bizarre behavior or circumstances, Steve will bend himself into incredibly knots to explain things. He will make broad and somewhat reckless assumptions about behavior, and keep on tweaking it into more and more unlikely and extreme explanations every time a flaw in his logic emerges. I wouldn't mind it so much if it didn't take. So. Long. Steve's attempts to fit a round peg through a square hole consume vast swathes of the episode, and I don't feel any better informed at the end of them. He also makes ceaseless lame jokes, but I feel like if he could rid himself of the need to keep chasing unconvincing explanations he might be worth something.
Joe I tend not to have a problem with. He buried his running joke (The Chupacabra), and he seems to be the only person whose ideas are worth anything. Joe actually talks about workable solutions, things to do or find that could answer questions, and seems to have a much broader knowledge base than his co-hosts. I'd love if Joe cast the ballast free and went solo, that's a Podcast I'd actually listen to.
Thinking Sideways has a serious problem with its structure. Allegedly the show has an informational section and a section on theories, and occasionally during the informational portion they'll backtrack someone and say "That's for theories", but then they'll often bring in new information to the theories section so the separation between the two halves is a joke. There have been a number of good episodes that came out well despite the flaws in the hosts, but often they focus on trivial details or cannot get across the big picture. The episodes on Kurt Cobain, the Ghost Net, and the Jefferson Davis Eight have this problem where they jump about with little regard for the big picture, and its only in hindsight can you figure out even what the mystery is.
What's most frustrating is that Team Sideways has made good episodes. The episodes on Lake City Quiet Pills, Elisa Lam, and Cicada 3301 were good in spite of the problems with the hosts, but I've seen fewer and fewer of those good episodes as time has gone on. Team Sideways may have made good episodes and I see how they became a big podcast, but they seem content these days to rest on their laurels by being glib, ignorant, confused, and worst of all boring.
If you want a mystery podcast go try The Trail Went Cold, Unsolved Murders, or Lore and give Thinking Sidways a pass.
Date published: 2017-05-07