In this episode I had the chance to talk with Elias Dummer of The City Harmonic about: How they're wrapping up The City Harmonic and what that means for them personally. How to go about ending something well. What it looks like to do ministry in a local church while being a part of a external project. How to make sure we're the best possible leader we can be. Managing the tensions we face with senior leadership. Why it is vitally important that we spend time actually reading our Bible. Finding God in the moment when we regularly lead. Ways we can pray for Elias and The City Harmonic.