“You can only polish a turd so much. It's poop in, it's poop out, and that's kind of a general rule of thumb, and inside joke of all hash makers. It comes down to the product that you're extracting these days.” On this episode of The Real Dirt with Chip Baker, I’ve got not one, but two cannabis cultivation pioneers. Call it a dynamic duo. Today I’m here with Dave Malone, founder of Green Dot Labs and Doug Marvin, head of Research & Development at Botanicare.