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From the writing desk of award-nominated and award-winning authors and podcasters Philippa Ballantine and Tee Morris comes The Shared Desk, a writer's show that explores collaboration, science fiction, fantasy, and just about anything that catches their fleeting attention spans.
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Episode #69 (Dudes!): Antagonists, Villains, and the Writers’ Challenge
Dec 19 16
With weeks remaining in 2016, we find ourselves hitting the show landmark that makes us both snigger like fifth graders: SHOW #69!!! We’re not talking about sex, erotica, or naughty bits. We are looking at the antagonist. Sure, the antagonist is a villain, but a villain is not always your antagonist. What are the challenges you face when developing the foil to your protagonist? Where is the line drawn between the mustache-twirler and the complicated antagonist?
Let’s talk about how good it is to be bad…
00:00 — Introduction
As we have said before, we are twelve years old…
Can you feel the excitement over Guardians of the Galaxy, Volume 2?
Groot. The new Hodor.
Nobilis Reed, celebrating a new book and a new house!
Show #69? Do we talk about sex, baby? Do we talk about you and me?
No, we actually decided to take a high ground for this show, and go low…
02:28 — Episode #69: Antagonists, Villains, and the Writers’ Challenge
One writer’s villain is another’s antagonist…sometimes, according to Miss Fancy Pants.
New drop-in’s are getting a workout.
Tee has already talked about the importance of developing your villains, but it’s worth returning to.
This is Pip’s current dilemma in her new fiction coming in 2017. (Something to look forward to…)
If you want to know more about editor-of-infinite-awesome, Jennifer Meltzer, pay her a visit at One-Stop Writer Shop!
What is Pip’s villain lacking?
Pardon the Galaxy Quest tangent…
Pip can do villains and antagonists. Look at Geist and the other Books of the Order.
Worthy to note: Mysteries handle antagonists different than Epic Fantasy.
Then you got antagonists within antagonists ala The Ministry of Peculiar Occurrences.
Tee & Pip audition for a Metallica tribute band.
Antagonists risk going neglected when “pantsing” through a work-in-progress.
The value of having a focus with your antagonist
No SPECTRE without Earnst Stavro Bloefeld
Lessons in antagonists from William Shakespeare
A turning point in the development of the game, Destiny.
The Fallen. Bad Guys. Eh.
Then we meet the Taken King…
There’s your focus.
Making antagonists sympathetic
Done right: Loki and Marvel’s Thor
Done wrong: Vader and the Star Wars prequels
More on an antagonist’s focus
The lack of focus in Star Trek: The Motion Picture versus KHAAAAAAANNNN!
The Phantom Menace. What was it again?
Antagonists as the central character of your property
Dr. Hannibal Lecter