Summary: In this episode we follow up our discussion with Lalo Dagach with a chat about secularism, and Evan breaks down his hair-brained strategy to defeat Trump in 2020. Is pushing for secularism a good idea (or even possible)? Who likes Nancy Pelosi? What's an Avery Island remoulade... and for god's sake, are we the only ones around here that respect lagniappe?! Are you ready to punch people in the face with your craft? Let us know by emailing us at the email address on the About page, or by hitting us up on Twitter at @Colin_Aulds, @EvanCMalone, and/or @Church_andState respectively. As always, please direct any and all complaints to our mailing address at: Luby's Corporate Headquarters 13111 Northwest Freeway, Suite 600 Houston, Texas 77040 or on Twitter at: @NancyPelosi.