Joe and Matthew are joined by artist William Downs. They delve into art career paths and trajectories. Automatism and the practice of performative drawing are explored. Studio visits, critics, and the trials and tribulations of academic life are discussed. Along the way, numerous artists and luminaries are name-checked including: Eva Hesse Louise Bourgeois Philip Guston Lawrence Weiner David Hammons Amy Sillman . . . and more. Matthew gives voice to the average viewer and takes heat from Joe on a Sex Pistols comment. The Ramones are briefly celebrated. William eases tensions with his soothing baritone. Who Is William Downs? Born and raised in Greenville, South Carolina, William Downs works in a range of mediums, but focuses primarily on drawing. He received a Multidisciplinary M.F.A. from the Mount Royal School of Art at the Maryland Institute College of Art, Baltimore and a B.F.A. in Painting and Printmaking from the Atlanta College of Art and Design. Downs taught Foundation Drawing at the Maryland Institute College of Art from 2002 through 2010. He taught Advanced Drawing at Parsons The New School for Design, Foundation Drawing at The Cooper Union and Tulane University. Downs is currently a Drawing and Painting Lecturer at Georgia State University and is represented by Sandler Hudson Gallery. Bio excerpted from SandlerHudson.com.