What do you do if you suffer a very public failure? How can you re-start your career? Catherine Hoke can help. Hoke knows about being a long shot. As the first female wrestler on her high school boys’ team, she owns the school record for getting pinned the most and fastest. Years later, she suffered a very public humiliation in her career -- yet she came back stronger than ever. In this short, but sweet, AFP Conversations episode, Catherine Hoke, founder of Defy Ventures, a national nonprofit that equips former drug dealers and gang members to start legal businesses, producing a 3% recidivism rate, explains what you need to do rebound from failure. Visit www.AFPonline.org/conversations to hear more treasury and finance conversations.