Couple months ago I was fortunate enough to take a deep dive with my old friend Professor Phil Stinson whose work includes the country's most comprehensive database on police arrests. We spoke at length about his qualifications and about his database and the path that lead him to such. And in this exceedingly depressing week of executions by police begetting assassination begetting Facebook outrage begetting empty words begetting Rudy Giuliani who for some reason is still being given a microphone, (I'm looking at you John Dickerson, you should know better), this podcast can serve as deep background on the data collection and research that is going on. I hope you find it as interesting as I did. If you'd like you can go on over to Phil's Facebook page where he keeps a pretty comprehensive set of links to the various and esteemed publications and broadcasts that quote or interview him. Again thanks for listening and go out and love somebody because that's the only way out of this fucking mess.